Link to Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/4Aj4ehBjM7vwp6KJ2ZzKLR?si=1dep8nIiRpu2TWN7l99hRQ
Link to Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/from-research-to-real-impact-navigating-leadership/id1474039999?i=1000710379999
In this transformative episode of The Wise Why, Kirsty van den Bulk sits down with Rob Lion, a professor, consultant, and multi-business owner, who shares why putting people first and letting go of control might be the biggest keys to success.
Rob’s story spans academia, entrepreneurship, and personal growth, and he brings powerful insights into how curiosity, open-mindedness, and surrender can shift everything—from how you lead to how you live. 💬
In this episode: Why control is an illusion—and how surrender unlocks peace and progress How empathy and grace can change every conversation Why Rob smiles at strangers (and why you might want to try it too) How can academic theory empower real-world business success? What parenting, leadership, and personal growth have in common
🎯 Whether you’re building a business or becoming a better human, this conversation will challenge you to rethink your appearance.
📚 Book Recommendation: Why We Do What We Do by Edward L. Deci – The science of motivation, self-determination, and what really drives us 🎧 Listener Challenge: Pause and reflect: Where are you holding on too tightly? What might happen if you gave grace to yourself or someone else?
Connect to Rob
Linkedin: Rob Lion
Connect to Kirsty van den Bulk
Linkedin: Kirsty van den Bulk
