What makes a truly memorable leader? Dr. Rob Lion believes it’s someone who creates work environments that energize people rather than drain them – a philosophy he’s developed through his fascinating journey from academic to multi-business entrepreneur.
In this soul-stirring conversation, Dr. Lion shares how he navigated the challenging transition from economic development expert to cycling studio owner, restaurateur, and finally to the leadership consultant he is today. His candid stories about COVID destroying businesses he’d built from scratch offer rare insights into the resilience required to pivot when everything seems lost.
“I realized everything’s learned,” Dr. Lion explains, describing his epiphany that entrepreneurship wasn’t an innate gift but rather a skill anyone could develop with the right mindset. “It’s usually us that gets in our way.” This growth perspective became foundational to his business philosophy, which he distills into the memorable phrase “give me growers, not showers” – valuing humble learners over know-it-alls.
The most valuable nugget may be Dr. Lion’s insights about psychological safety in organizations. When leaders respond consistently to both triumphs and failures, team members develop the courage to admit mistakes, ask questions, and hold themselves accountable. This creates cultures where innovation thrives naturally rather than being forced.
Dr. Lion’s wisdom extends beyond the workplace into personal relationships too. His “24-hour rule” with his spouse – allowing only one day to process negative emotions before moving forward – demonstrates how principles of emotional intelligence can strengthen both professional and personal connections. “We’ve learned to give each other permission to sit in the suck,” he explains, “and it’s amazing how quickly we move back out of that.”
Whether you’re leading a Fortune 500 company, launching your first startup, or simply trying to build stronger relationships, Dr. Lion’s practical advice will transform how you approach the human side of business. Subscribe now to hear more conversations that balance mindset optimization with real-world entrepreneurial challenges.
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