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Notes on Resilience: Guest Rob Lion—Seeing People as Humans

Notes on Resilience

Have you ever wondered why inspiring speeches from leaders don’t always translate to motivated teams?

In this conversation with Rob Lion, we discuss how leaders often forget that employees don’t necessarily love the organization the same way they do. While executives might focus on purpose and vision, many employees are primarily concerned with meeting foundational needs like providing for their families or maintaining stability.

This disconnect explains why what works at the leadership level doesn’t always resonate throughout the organization.

One of the most thought-provoking parts of our conversation focuses on rethinking onboarding. Rob draws a parallel to vacation: What do you do day one on vacation? You explore, you have fun…

Yet most companies approach onboarding like reading emergency procedures instead of letting employees explore and understand the culture they’ve joined. This simple shift in thinking could transform how organizations welcome new team members.

Rob emphasizes that culture work and performance objectives must operate concurrently. Becoming too culture-focused can make an organization self-centered, while overemphasizing performance can lead to forgetting employees’ humanity. Finding this balance is the sweet spot for leadership that delivers both fulfillment and results.

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About The Host

Angie Lion

Chief Soul Officer (CSO) of Black River Performance Management & Host of the Leader U Podcast

“I polish human gems in the workplace and assist them in reaching their full potential”

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